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Feb 25 2008, 8:41 AM EST http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHh5AqQ4_xw&NR=1 or there is other one!!!!!! 3 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Apr 30 2008, 12:00 AM EDT Yeah, that'd be a cool debunk, particularly with Jamie's well-known love of really powerful magnets. There are lots of these nifty space toys that run for a long time when (something) is done to start them. You never get back the energy put in AND notice that, at least in the demos shown here, they never do any real work, not even - say - pushing the creators around on a bicycle. You can't get something for nothing, and hang onto your wallet around anyone who claims otherwise. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Apr 30 2008, 4:08 PM EDT Better yet, come to http://www.martiandrifter.com and get something worth more than those silly 'free energy' devices, Martian land! Oops, sorry, couldn't resist: I mean, if you're just gonna waste your money, you could at least get SOMETHING for it. Beware of geeks fleecing stiffs! The 'Net is loaded with fraudulent sites trying to pass off 'free energy' machines, including the latest, the 'zero loss' style with a motor-generator combo that supposedly runs 'over parity', i.e., produces more than it consumes. Maybe someday we'll have them but we're still waiting for true high-temp superconductors. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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May 1 2008, 11:13 AM EDT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvB3PiPBozU Here's another one folks, I believe that in some cases it is being done, when the laws of thermodynamics were written we did not have rare earth magnets!!!!!! Magnetic fields are very powerful things and and I believe the only reason many of these real working devices are not in everyday use today is the people who have been selling expensive energy for so many years have enough money and political influence to stop these products from going public. Don't get me wrong, i'm sure 99% of these products are 100%BS!!!! but that 1% could change the world. I also don't think it is a good thing for the mythbusters to test because the people who have working devices spend years of R&D and i"m sure quite a bit of money to come up with a working device.A better route would be for them to approach the inventors and see if they will let them check the device out themselves rather than try to recreate it. If the technology is real and they are looking for investors, a high profile show like mythbusters would be a godsend for them, plus it would be put into the focus of the main stream media wich would likely protect them from being shut down. 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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StandardMonster |
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May 1 2008, 6:45 PM EDT There are others too like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDeXTXYFKAY&feature=related or this or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt5z8L4LBJE&feature=related these are practical uses not an oversized office paper weight......Adam, Jamie, Torie, somebody from the show contact these people and check it out, Lets see if it is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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May 2 2008, 3:47 PM EDT " I believe that in some cases it is being done, when the laws of thermodynamics were written we did not have rare earth magnets!!!!!!Rare earth magnets, huh? Increase the magnetic field and you increase the output. You also increase the amount of force required to spin the generator or motor and the load on the bearings. The four main opponents of electrical efficiency, by the numbers: 1. I^2R loss due to resistance in the wires. 2. Hysteresis loss due to stray magnetic fields. 3. Friction load on the bearings of motors or generators. 4. Aerodynamic drag on the rotating parts of any motor or generator. In short, about the best you will ever see is MAYBE 94 percent efficiency. That's with frictionless bearings, windings designed to reduce hysteresis, a vacuum casing to eliminate air drag and pure silver wiring for minimal resistance. With superconductive windings, it's theoretically possible to hit about 98 percent efficiency...but that's strictly theoretical. (Silver is the best electrical conductor, not gold. Copper is actually superior to gold, think about it when you go to buy new stereo leads or coax parts.) 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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StandardMonster |
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May 3 2008, 12:53 AM EDT Technically you are wrong, you can use magnetic fields to reduce drag to virtually nothing. you could technically have an armiture riding within a magnetic field with no surface tension....... Do you find this valuable? |
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StandardMonster |
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May 3 2008, 1:19 AM EDT I do not mean to be argumentive, I just think so many people are soo quick to dismiss new ideas because of what they learned from a textbook. If we stick to this mentality we will never advance. I am no genius but I know enough to realize all of the great minds out there are working to go beyond what textbooks tell us to be true. If you just want to be one of the heard you will accept the textbook as law. Just think 50 years ago textbooks told us that the Milky Way galaxy was the universe. I will let this go now but if you read this I would like to see some reply's just your thoughts. I believe limits are set by perception, not by what a textbook tells you. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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martiandrifter01 |
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May 3 2008, 10:03 PM EDT How cold of you to say. Listen up, drivet, you earned this one! 50 years, you say... Hang your head in shame, for you have insulted thousands of prominent researchers, all the way back to Galileo Galilei. No, he was not the man who painted the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Believe what you will, it's not my place to babysit. I raised my two children already. Not everything I believe comes from textbooks, but I'll give you a big, fat clue: They're a great place to start! You should try reading one sometime! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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May 4 2008, 12:26 AM EDT "How cold of you to say. Listen up, drivet, you earned this one!Sorry wrong again there, I was just speaking in general terms, and whats with the name calling. The fact is, I do read and the first scientist to find that our universe was more than the Milky Way was Edwin Hubble. He discovered it in 1919 and announced it in 1925. I'm not here to give a history lesson I'm just passing along some ideas. Chill Out !!!! no reason to get your panties in a bunch..... Do you find this valuable? |
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May 4 2008, 2:05 AM EDT "How cold of you to say. Listen up, drivet, you earned this one!Oh I forgot to mention Galileo died in1642 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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May 4 2008, 6:20 AM EDT "Oh I forgot to mention Galileo died in1642"a real magnetic motor as u call it, well mine has no moving parts and it can fly, but its still out of control,more testing is needed, then all u need is the arc thats made of gold, or some kind of atomic motor to power up a magnetic field using just copper plates, but u got the internet ,all i'm saying is go look..........have a fun day..............ed Do you find this valuable? |
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May 4 2008, 11:57 AM EDT "a real magnetic motor as u call it, well mine has no moving parts and it can fly, but its still out of control,more testing is needed, then all u need is the arc thats made of gold, or some kind of atomic motor to power up a magnetic field using just copper plates, but u got the internet ,all i'm saying is go look..........have a fun day..............ed"Pessimism will keep us in what 50 years from now should be called the dark ages of pollution. Do you find this valuable? |
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May 4 2008, 9:53 PM EDT Sorry, monster, I was tired and probably shouldn't have posted. Yes, I am aware of when Galileo died. I'm aware of Edwin Hubble, too. I'm also aware that several other astronomers before him theorized the Galaxy was not the entire universe, starting about 200 years before Mr. Hubble. I suspect that Galileo had a clue about the universe, too, since he was good enough to have spotted the first four known moons of Jupiter, which pushes the idea back to the 1630's...and he was building on ideas of other astronomers before him. The magnetic motor you saw, the Perendev, is a useless toy. It doesn't produce any useful power, and exists only to consume raw materials and entertain people. You can hear it slowing down after being cranked to "operating" speed, and no load of any kind was attached. Devices like it have been around for over 120 years, they just didn't look as spiffy, since nylon and acrylic weren't available. Having checked on the other devices: None of the inventors were producing any hard data to back up their claims. It's too easy to make a video and an unsubstantiated claim. It would be an easy enough thing to prove: Start the device and record its power output over a 24 hour period with (neutral) observers to witness and substantiate the claim. If the Aussie motor-generator can make 24 kilowatts while consuming only 4.5 or so, it's the real thing and a Godsend for humanity. I noticed they didn't provide any evidence of its output or consumption, there wasn't a multimeter in sight. Do you find this valuable? |
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May 4 2008, 11:28 PM EDT 1925 was 83 years ago, math whiz. 50 years ago it was 1958. We knew there was a universe beyond the Milky Way galaxy. We knew the Earth's rotational speed (and that it was round!), its orbital velocity, escape velocity, that our Moon wasn't made of green cheese, Enzo Ferrari was building gorgeous racing cars while Mr. Lamborghini was making farm tractors. We had Chevrolet Corvettes with 327-c.i.d. V8 fuel-injected engines. Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower was President, we'd already had at least 3 'gas shortages', the Air Force had B-52's, and the SR-71 prototype was being developed by Kelly Johnson (et al.) at Lockheed's Skunk Works. There were also people claiming to have flown in UFOs and/or discovered the secret of eternal youth, at least 1000 patent applications had been filed the previous year for perpetual motion machines (including 'over-unity' type devices), and people were lured into investing in them. Have a nice day, StandardMonster. With a little applied hydraulics, you could be Automatic! Do you find this valuable? |
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May 5 2008, 12:18 AM EDT drifter you said: It would be an easy enough thing to prove: Start the device and record its power output over a 24 hour period with (neutral) observers to witness and substantiate the claim. If the Aussie motor-generator can make 24 kilowatts while consuming only 4.5 or so, it's the real thing and a Godsend for humanity. I noticed they didn't provide any evidence of its output or consumption, there wasn't a multimeter in sight. I agree that generally the point I was making if you look at the 4th post on this thread Do you find this valuable? |
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May 5 2008, 12:42 AM EDT Also you said 1925 was 83 years ago, math whiz. 50 years ago it was 1958. I said earlier in the 10th post i was just speaking in general terms. If you want to nit pick, I was only 33 years off in my statement. "50 years, you say... Hang your head in shame, for you have insulted thousands of prominent researchers, all the way back to Galileo Galilei." You were at least 283 years off with yours. Obviously this is getting to be a bit of a juvinile pissing contest, so i"m going to call you Mr.Knowitall from now on. Do you find this valuable? |
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May 5 2008, 1:52 AM EDT So be it. At least one of us knows something, including how to spell, and how to construct sentences, Drivet. There, now that we have our pet names, shall we be friends? I wasn't 283 years off, I qualified my statement with "all the way back to", inferring an increase numerically, thus covering any time period or theoretically injured party I chose. Your generalization I took offense to due to its rather serious inaccuracy and inference of superior intelligence, education or both, based on time period. I notice the IQ scale was lowered within the last 15 years or so to make 100 the current average. It used to be 120. Some major increase in intelligence, eh? Do you find this valuable? |
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May 5 2008, 6:56 AM EDT Yeesh, where was I this weekend when you guys were going at it? ;) I run my car on garbage scraps, by the way, a la Back to the Future. Just thought I'd let you guys know. Bought a converter on eBay. Do you find this valuable? |
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May 6 2008, 10:15 PM EDT Sorry, amy! Do you find this valuable? |
